Mia Francis-Poulin is a boy mom, advocate, and content marketing geek. Native to New Orleans, Louisiana, she is an alum of Tulane University where she received her BA in English, as well as the University of Texas at Dallas, where she received her Master’s in Emerging Media and Communications.
Having worked in digital marketing for the last near-decade, she became a corporate dropout when she left her 9 to 5 to launch R + A Creative Co., a boutique digital marketing agency for busy female entrepreneurs.
Her most important achievement, however, is being a mom to her two sons, Roman and AJ, who are both miracles in their own right. She’s the host of the Mama, Build Your Empire podcast, which is dedicated to mom bosses who are growing their business while raising their kids with special needs.
Episode 57;
Katie: 00:00 Mia Francis is a boy mom, advocate and content marketing geek. Having worked in digital marketing for the last decade. She became a corporate dropout when she left her nine to five to launch RNA creative company, a Boutique Digital Marketing Agency for busy female entrepreneurs who are most important in treatment, however, is being a mom to her two sons, Roman and AJ. She’s also the host of the Mama, Build Your Empire podcast, which is dedicated to mom bosses, growing their businesses while raising their kids with special needs. I know you guys are going to get so much great information out of this episode and I’m so excited to share it with you. Don’t forget to go check out Mia’s website as well as her podcast Mama, Build Your Empire. All right, let’s jump into the episode.
Katie: 01:16Hi everybody and thank you for tuning into the Hustlenomics podcast. I’m your host, Katie. And today I am thrilled to be talking with Mia Francis pooling. She is the owner at R&A creative company and the host of the mom of build your empire podcast, which is a podcast dedicated to mom bosses who are growing their business while raising their kids with special needs. So Mia, thank you so much for coming on the show today. So I did a little introduction for you, but I would love if you kind of expand on that and tell us a little bit more about who you are and everything that you do.
Mia: 01:51Yes. So I started my digital marketing career about nine years ago. I’ve been writing, started writing for the web and creating content for the web. And I thought I was going to be in book publishing and I went to Undergrad, I went to Tulane in New Orleans, and I majored in English and I thought I was going to either be a professor of English literature. And so I studied a lot of Shakespeare so that I was going to be a book publisher. So after I got out of Undergrad, I went to New York with my eyes set on getting something in publishing, specifically editing. And I realized that I did not like New York. It was not my jam. I’m very southern. And I was actually attending the Columbia publishing course at the time and which was a phenomenal experience and I love everything about it.
Mia: 02:49 But I did not want to stay in New York. And so I came back to the south and ended up in Texas, which is where I live now. I live just north of Dallas. And I had my first kind of foray into entrepreneurship. I started my own editorial company and I did that alongside my corporate job cause I went and got a job working for a health education company and which I also loved. I kind of fell into marketing cause I thought, okay, well if I’m not going to do book publishing, I’m not going to be a professor. Maybe copywriting. Like maybe that’s something I can do as long as I’m something with words, Right? And so I was building this business, this editorial company on the side of doing my nine to five and we actually had some pretty big successes. One of the books that I worked on, I got bought by a big five publisher.
Mia: 03:41 Another book that we worked on actually got hit number 16 on the USA Today bestseller list. And so we had lots of like really cool wins with this, especially since it was such a small company kind of outfit that I had built. I had a team of five editors that were just contracting for me and I was doing the leg work of finding, finding the books for them to edit and, and networking with people and getting the contracts. And so from there, I grew that for a couple of years and kind of hopped around, moved a little bit from place to place in Texas as my, my husband. I got married, my husband, he got another job up near where we currently are. And very shortly after we moved close to, you know, appear where we live near Dallas. I was also pregnant and with my first baby and I gave birth 13 weeks early.
Mia: 04:34 And so that was a very life-changing event for me. And in many ways, I mean as much going into motherhood kind of always is. But I, prior to that I had been really like hustle, hustle, hustle. Like I, I was always like, what and what can I do more? And when you’re in that position, and my son, my eldest Roman, he was in the NICU for 292 days. And when you, when you’re in that type of position, it really forces you to slow down because nothing is really directly in your control. You know, like there’s really, really nothing, none of it is in your control. So I ended up shutting down that business, my editorial company, and I left my corporate job and was out of work for about a year, just focusing on my son and getting him well and getting him home. And so when he came home the month after he came home after I immediately started job searching but he came home with a trache and a vent and a whole host of hardware as we, as we call it, we call it as hardware and now all that stuff’s gone.
Mia: 05:41 But he’s thankfully he doesn’t have the trache anymore cause he had significant lung issues and kind of still does have that. But I started job searching again and decided to go back into corporate. And again, I was there. I figured out my new kind of normal with that. And I had pretty OK Harmony between working my nine to five and managing all of my needs with my son at home. But then I started getting that itch again to explore and be an entrepreneur. And then I finally just accepted, you know what entrepreneurship is in my blood. I come from a family of entrepreneurs. My dad’s had his own business for probably about 35 years. My mom has always been a very enterprising person. She had a very successful, while she didn’t own her own business, she had a very successful sales career multi-mode winning.
Mia: 06:32 And so I just, I just finally accepted it. I was in my blood. And so that’s when I started R&A creative and I used my marketing experience and my writing experience in all the marketing strategies that as I grew in my career in my nine to five with increased responsibilities and things like that, that I just wanted to use it for myself because eventually, although things worked for a long time with managing everything with my son, when we had baby number two, which he’s nine months old, that’s when things stopped working in a kind of a significant way. So I started my business as a side business. I knew I needed an exit strategy. I knew I needed an exit plan and grew all of that concurrent to me, to my nine to five with the, that the plan of I’m gonna leave soon.
Katie: 07:22 And so have you gone full time with R&A?
Mia: 07:24 I have. I left my nine to five at the beginning of October of this year after growing it for more than a year as a side business and, and kind of getting it to where it is today cause it kind of, it actually has had several iterations, kind of transitions throughout the past year, year and a half almost. But yeah, I’ve been full time in my business since October and it’s been a ride.
Katie: 07:50 Congratulations. I actually went full time in my business in October too, and I’m just like shocked at the similarities between us I grew up and went to get my bachelor’s in Chicago, so moved away from the south, came back to the south, got my masters in writing and media and communication. So I’m like a girl after my own heart.
Mia: 08:08 Yes, yes. And Yeah, some somewhere in there. I’ve got a masters degree. I don’t even know how.
Katie: 08:13 Well entrepreneurs, we’re good at multitasking, right? That’s amazing. So I would love to hear everything that R&A does. It says marketing or digital marketing company so Kinda clarify for me what you guys do.
Mia: 08:29 So, the short answer to that is that we help specifically female entrepreneurs to refine their branding, meaning their, their messaging, their positioning and to develop go to market strategies for their business. So basically we take them from the very foundation of their business and looking at how are they, how are they speaking to their audience? Who is their audience, how can we reach them and how can we speak to them in a way that they need to be to. So that’s what I do. I love the strategy. I love coming up with the ways to find what’s unique about your business so that you can stand out and what’s you generally a very crowded market. Like it doesn’t even really matter your, industry, the markets, there’s going to be competition. And so finding what makes your business unique and your unique, your USP. That’s really what a lot of people come to me for.
Mia: 09:22 Cause a lot of the people, a lot of my clients, they generally have been in business for maybe a year or two. They kind of bootstrapped their way in their business. So they are just kind of like, you know, either they were in their nine to five and growing it like I was and as a side hustle and then they went full time and now they’re trying to make it all cohesive and put it all together. Like they may have gotten clients from referrals or networking and now they’re really looking to diversify where they get their clients from. So that’s where I come in to help them with that, with that fine-tooth comb to really develop this is their brand and this is how we market to their audience, into their clients, their prospective clients. So that is what R&A is about.
Katie: 10:04 That’s very cool. And it’s so funny how often writers kind of veer into the marketing world because, you know, they’re able to kind of find that uniqueness and use their voice of your brand and, and write out some really great copies. So, it’s funny that I keep coming across that, but it makes sense. It makes sense a lot.
Mia: 10:21 Yeah, no, for sure. Yeah, I’ve definitely noticed that as well. And you know, I think that it’s because writers innately, you have to read between the lines and find the messages that aren’t necessarily apparent. So I think that’s what, that’s one of those key things that makes it a good skill. Definitely.
Katie: 10:39 What types of business or business owners are you usually working with?
Mia: 10:43 Yeah, so usually service providers, I really focus in on female entrepreneurs because you know, that’s one of the largest growing groups of new entrepreneurs coming out each year. And usually they are online service providers particularly, they’re probably like a one-woman show and they’re not quite ready to have a full team brought on necessarily. But they are still in need of marketing help and branding help. So that’s usually who I end up working with. And it’s a good mix, a good type of relationship usually.
Katie: 11:17 Yeah, that’s awesome. And so you have done a lot of amazing things at the same time that you built. You started the podcast, you are raising two kids. And that’s incredible to me. How, you know, somebody can do so many amazing things well at once. So how did you balance all of this together and finally get the chance to work hard and build your business and leave your nine to five?
Mia: 11:39 The first thing I did was I accepted that my life wasn’t going to necessarily be balanced but that I was going to strive for harmony in my life. Like that was the big game-changer cause for a long time, I mean, so many people preach about, you know, work-life balance and this and that and that is great. Like we should be aware and cognizant of the fact that you know, you can’t be all business 100% of the time, all the time. You will burn yourself out. I get this from Lisa Nichols who is like, she’s my, my, my virtual auntie. She has no clue who I am but, but I, I love her so much in all the work that she comes out with. And in one of her books, Abundance Now she talks about this concept of, of work-life harmony.
Mia: 12:27 And it just transformed my life too because I was fighting so hard and feeling bad and guilty. Like, cause you know, every mom knows about mom guilt. But I was feeling so guilty all the time that I wasn’t spending enough time with my kids. I wasn’t spending enough time on my business. And then when I kind of simplified everything down and just said, I’m not going to have equal amounts of attention given to each facet of my life at the same time. But when I’m a, when I’m here with my kids, I’m going to be here with my kids. When I’m here with my business, I’m going to be in on my business and I’m going to build my life so that both parts, the family and the business that they work together versus in competition. Because I think one of the biggest problems that I had and when I built my, my first business, I didn’t have kids at the time, so I was just like all in on it, hustle all the time, 24 seven but I was had my business and then my life just kind of like circled around it versus having my life in my business pitting within it.
Mia: 13:30 And so, and whether it’s getting my master’s degree, which I’m a, I’m a learner, I don’t know if you’ve ever done one of those strength binders, assessments, learner was like, number one for me because I love, I love school. It’s my favorite place to be. And which, you know, I don’t know, maybe get another degree. I told my husband the other day, I was like, you know, maybe 10 years from now, Michael, back to school. He was like, oh, okay. But no, but whether it was, it was that, or it was any other thing that I’m trying to do in my life, just making harmony a priority versus thinking about it as being equal, balanced. So that’s the biggest thing.
Katie: 14:10 Yeah, I like that a lot. And I think the idea of work-life balance is completely changed. It doesn’t have the same definition anymore. I don’t think, you know, now that people are growing their families and working full time, working from home or remotely, you know, all it’s so different compared to what it was 30 years ago. I think like you said, working in harmony, working in tandem, that’s the new way people are viewing it instead of like the black and white.
Mia: 14:37 Yes, for sure. And I think the other thing as well, I learned really early on to be very organized. Like my mom, which you know, again, I mentioned her, she would take me with her to like the planner store, which I think was like, what was the name of it? Like Franklin Covey, maybe. I don’t even know if they’re still in business. But I would go with her because her planner was her life and she, I mean she was always at meetings and this and that. Like always having multiple things to do. So I learned from like a very early age, the power of the planner and getting super organized with me, with my time that way. And that, that goes in with helping me be able to, to be fully present with my children when I’m with them and fully present in my business when I’m working on that because I know my time is kind of, it’s banked out how it needs to be, which right now, because I have this small child and it’s a totally different kind of experience than with my first because you know, Roman was in the hospital for the first year, whereas my second child had a totally normal birth and he came home with us, which that was a mindblower.
Mia: 15:44 And and you know, he’s, he’s just kinda like very very average. So having to kind of be almost like a new parent again and figure out what type of working in that type of scenario. That’s something that I’m balancing. We’re trying to find, find some type of harmony in, but we’re getting it with, with time.
Katie: 16:06 That’s what I heard from most moms. It’s, it’s different with each child. And you’re always learning something new.
Mia: 16:11 Yes. Yes. Like this one doesn’t sleep. The other one my firstborn slept great.
Katie: 16:18 So you’re dealing with sleep deprivation too.
Mia: 16:21 Yes. But what I found is, cause I’m always trying to find the silver lining is that when I do get him to sleep and even though he sleeps for a very short amount of time in the nighttime, that is my prime working time. Cause it’s kind of like, okay when does the grenade and the go off let me like, let me get as much work as I can get done there. That way when he wakes up I can tend to him and get him back to sleep. So yeah,
Katie: 16:45 Some people work their best work in the middle of the night.
Mia: 16:48 I always have, I always have.
Katie: 16:50 So, since we’ve talked a little bit about your marketing company, I’d love to talk about your podcast and I think it’s such a really cool premise of you know, helping other moms grow their businesses. So how did you decide that you wanted to start a podcast in the first place?
Mia: 17:04 So I had been trying to start a podcast probably for about a year, but in the sense that I knew that I wanted to do it, but I had no clue what it was going to be about. And I probably about September or maybe even before that, probably last summer. So at this point, five or six months ago, I just had the thought that, okay, I need to do something to speak to special needs moms. Because at that time, my eldest, who’s always been medically fragile, he also got the diagnosis of autism. And so with that new diagnosis, whereas we thought, you know, all the medical stuff that that Kinda had an end date to it in a sense because even though he was a Preemie, his pulmonologist, all the doctors always said, oh well he’ll grow out of that lung disease bodily by the time he’s like eight.
Mia: 17:54 And so even though that’s a long time from now, he’s only three, I was just like, all right, cool. When he’s eight, this will all be over. Right. But then when you get that diagnosis of autism, it’s like that’s a lifelong disability, I guess you could say. I don’t particularly like the word disability cause he’s able to so many other ways, but it’s, it’s a lifelong thing. And so with that, I mean, you go through so many different emotions and feelings and it’s, it changes you, it changes your world. It changes the dynamic, even though, you know, the autism’s always been there. So I’m always looking for ways that I can use my pain and my struggles. I guess you could say. The things I struggle with to benefit other people. So like when Roman was first born, he was in the hospital.
Mia: 18:42 When there are other moms who needed like whose children needed a trache or something like that, they, the doctors would come to me and be like, Hey, can you talk to so-and-so about, you know, can I give her your number to talk about trache life? And there was up to them if they wanted to call me. But you know, I was kind of like the, you know, the cheerleader, like it’s going to be cool, let’s talk. And I have actually made a lot of friends that way, surprisingly. And I was kind of the NICU welcome committee, you know, a new person comes in, hey, you know, how’s it going? So I’ve always, that’s how I process trauma, I guess you could say, which there’s lots of trauma that comes from having a child born 13 weeks early and, and being in the hospital so long.
Mia: 19:27 But when I decided, hey, I’m going to start a podcast, it was really like a sudden thing and I just, I just kind of pulled the trigger and went for it. I went for it actually. And their response has been amazing. I reached out in a couple of my circles because it’s not just for special needs moms, but it’s for special needs moms who are also growing businesses. So it’s really specific, but there’s something for everyone. But there’s something for even the moms who, who don’t necessarily have businesses or have businesses yet. And so the response has been amazing to it, to, to Mama, build your empire. That’s the name of my podcast. And I’m just so I’m glad that I did it because just knowing and hearing from other people that they’re finding value in it and that the stories that are being told are helping people. That makes it all worthwhile.
Katie: 20:17 So before you started your show and you were kind of thinking about, you know, the idea of it, did you have like a support system around you of other moms with you know, special needs children or other moms growing their business? Did you already have that support system and kind of tribe around you? Or is this something that built up with the podcast?
Mia: 20:34 So it’s, so it’s definitely built up with the Podcast. I would have to say my support system has been almost mostly virtual. So that’s through Facebook groups. Because there’s a ton of different support groups on Facebook for whatever kind of disorder that you have. So I’m in, I’m in groups for my son’s a lung disease. And for him having the trache, I’m in groups for autism and sensory processing disorder and, and all that. And so, and I’ve gotten great support from those places and I had to seek those out because we are, I’m, I’m really far from my family. You know, I’m from New Orleans, I live you just north of Dallas and it’s a, you know, 11-hour drive and probably, you know, a two-hour flight. But you know, it’s still is still a ways away. It takes, it will take, it’s not that easy for me to go visit my family and get that support. And so, so, but since I’ve started that podcast, I mean I’ve, I’ve made some lifelong friends and two months, you know, and so then people who really get it, you know, who really get, cause, you know, building a business that’s hard, raising a kid with special needs that are also very hard. And so when you’re, when you’re doing both, it’s kind of, it can be isolating. It can be an isolating feeling.
Katie: 21:55 Yeah. I totally get that. That’s exactly one of the reasons why I started this show. I was just like, there have to be other people out there feeling the same thingI’m feeling like I can’t be the only one. That has been so helpful for my state of mind and my mental health, knowing that there are people out there going through the exact same thing. So I’d love to kind of chat about how you got everything started, the nitty-gritty, the background stuff, the stuff that not everybody knows about. I mean I’d love to talk like hosting equipment, producing, editing, all that stuff if you’re down.
Mia: 22:26 Yes. Oh, I, yes, I am so excited to talk about this. So the first thing that I did was I wanted to vet my idea. So I went to, I did some market research and in Facebook groups that I’m in, which again I’m in, I’m in, feels like I’m in way too many. But I’ve actually, I actually find them so valuable. So I went to some of the groups both for female entrepreneurship but then also for special needs parenting. And I just asked like, what are some of the things that you are struggling with? And I asked I told them a little bit about my vision and what I’m trying to do. So I, you know, I said to them, you know, hey, I am looking to start a podcast about moms in business who are also raising kids with special needs.
Mia: 23:15 I would love to get your feedback about it. And everybody was just like, I love it. I want to talk to you about it. And so from that, from that initial response, I’ve actually built out probably about five words, five months worth of interviews. Yes. So, and that was, I was just, and I actually have to circle back to that initial group and touch base with some more people who, who couldn’t schedule at that time. But that’s, that was kind of that initial wave and it got me a good chunk of, of my, my material. And while I was doing that though, I wanted a way to, cause there, there were a few things I need to do. I wanted to build a list, like an email list of people that I can consistently attract. So to do that I built a landing page, which was just like an interest form to get them on my newsletter.
Mia: 24:11 Then I wanted to, I needed to figure out hosting and all the technical stuff, which luckily in my business when you’re, when you’re a creative, which you know, you kinda can learn, you pick up skills. And so audio editing was one of those skills that a boss like three jobs ago was like, Hey, can you edit this thing? And I was like, sure. And so, yeah. And so I kind of already knew audacity a little bit. Which after a while I actually outsourced that to a VA who specifically does podcasting and, and she’s amazing. And that was the best investment I made in this podcast just to say. But to get that, to get that startup. And I got my hosting, which I hosted through pod bean because one of my friends hosted through pod bean and it was the least intimidating out of all the other ones.
Mia: 25:10 From there I batched all of my interviews or interview recordings, so I, to simplify things, I had my calendar Scheduler, which I use Calendly and I set out specific days that people could schedule so that I could just back to back, boom, boom, boom, interview people and and sort their audio. I use Trello, I don’t know if you have a, a project management tool that’s a favorite. So I love Trello. I’ve used it for years. I’ve tried acuity and I’m team Trello, but I, I just track everything and throw all my audio files on in each person. Each episode has its own card and I just record them back to back, put them in their card and then either I will edit the audio, which audacity for me is let’s literally drag, drop, highlight, delete. And, and boom, you have an episode and I’m, I’m on iTunes, Spotify, stitcher, Google, the Google podcast and Google play. I probably will get on some other platforms, but those are the ones I wanted to focus on initially.
Katie: 26:19 Yeah, those are the big heavy hitters. And I use a couple of different, I use like Asana and Dubsado things like that. But I did the exact same thing where I batched worked all my episodes, which has been, I can’t even tell you the most amazing thing, but it’s funny when somebody interviewed, they’re like six weeks later they’re like where’s my episode? It’s like, wait, I’ve got a year of episodes recorded. Yeah, that’s so cool. I always for people to kind of understand the background of producing a podcast, cause it’s a lot of work, which not everybody realizes I still do my editing, which I am about to hit my head on the wall for doing that to myself. I edit other people’s podcasts too, but interesting that you outsourced that might be something that I do in the future. Cool. So very cool. So what have been some of the highlights of the podcast that’s come out of the podcast? Like relationships or just you know, anything, in general, that’s been a big highlight.
Mia: 27:12 So first just like you said, the relationships that I’ve, I’ve built from the Podcast because you know, that feeling of being isolated and being alone, I mean it can feel really, really sad some days. And so, you know, being able to connect with people who really on, on both the business building side but also the mom’s side who understand specifically like what I’m struggling with. That’s been, that’s been amazing on my personal level. But also whenever I get a positive review and when I got my first like an unprompted review, which I haven’t prompted anybody, but I just got my first, I got my first podcast review on iTunes and it was a five-star review. I was just kinda like, I don’t even know who you are, but to like me, this is so great. But you know, in the review, you know, she was saying how, how it, how, what, what I was talking about because my podcast is a balance of interviews and,and some solo shows. And so what I was talking about the episode and question was don’t say sorry that my, that when I tell you my kid’s autistic, because, you know, a lot of people will go, you know, if I say and my son’s autistic, they’ll go, oh, I’m sorry.
Mia: 28:31 I’m just like, well, no, like, you know, he’s actually really like, like nothing to be sorry about. He’s actually super awesome, you know, he is, you know, all these great things. And for her to get what I was saying, like to understand and to also have it speak to her, that was just, that was just amazing. That was so great. So whenever, whenever I can reach people and help them both on the emotional level of, of raising a child with special needs, but then also on, on giving them away to fight back against it. The statistics about special needs moms, which there are a lot of them especially around employment that was, you know, chronically underemployed or unemployed that we have chronic absences. But then also on the healthy side, like special needs moms are, are significantly more likely to die of cancer and hardest heart attack and stroke and, and misadventure than, than non-special needs moms. That’s so important to me as well.
Katie: 29:39 That’s incredible. I had no about that. That’s so interesting. So have you found, like, what have you noticed about your listenership? Have you noticed it’s mostly moms or is it people who are interested in learning more that maybe don’t have kids with special needs? Have you noticed anything about your listenership that surprised you?
Mia: 29:56 The location actually was what surprised me. I mean there’s clearly a lot of people in the US but I got like a New Zealand, like people listening to some random places, which, you know, I got, obviously we’re in a global world, you know, we’re, we’re, you know, got the worldwide web, but that surprised me actually. But yeah, no. As far as who’s listening, it’s mostly moms. Mostly moms I’d say.
Katie: 30:29 And have you had a favorite interview so far? I know like all of them are probably your favorite, like I have the same problem, but have you had one that stuck with you?
Mia: 30:36 I would say I did an interview a few weeks ago and this is live now. My interviewee, her name is April Juke, and she talked about domestic violence awareness month, we had her, her episode air and she is a survivor of domestic violence. And she also, at that time when she was in the domestic violence situation, she had five children, three or three children, and all of them had special needs. All of them were autistic. And since she is releasing her book, of her story and her journey and she also started a school for the deaf, which one of her children, she has five total now since she, she has since remarried. But has started a school for the deaf and just her story is just so amazing and like the way that she has overcome some serious life-threatening life-changing events. Just that, that one put light in my spirit because it just made me remember that there’s, there’s hope even in the darkest of situations.
Katie: 31:43 That’s incredible. What a story. My goodness. I will definitely have an eye out for that book and listen into your, your episode and is there any out there that would be like a dream guest?
Mia: 31:53 I am like totally in love with Meg Brunson, which not a lot of people probably know her, but she, she also has a podcast or she has a podcast called familypreneur But she is a Facebook ads guru as she used to work at Facebook. She has since started her own business doing a one working one on one with phenomenal clients on their podcast or on their, on their products and advertising them on Facebook. And, she’s just an amazing person. She’s also a special needs mom. She had a 27 weeker and we taught, we’ve talked, briefly, I’m, I’m kinda working up to inviting her on the podcast just to, just to throw that out there. So meg, if you’re listening, we’d love to have you on, but, she’s an amazing person as well because she, she’s just so positive and upbeat and she, she just loves to teach people about something that overwhelms a lot of business owners, which is Facebook advertising. Cause it is, I don’t know, for me, Facebook advertising, even though I’ve been in marketing for, you know, forever, it feels like now at this point, you know, cause it changes so much. It’s like the, you know, you can’t control it. So yeah, I love her. I would love to have her on.
Katie: 33:16 That’s awesome. So what is something that’s coming up, either your business or for the podcast or just in life in general that you’re really looking forward to or that you’re excited?
Mia: 33:25 So I am in the next couple of weeks I’m going to have a free challenge that’s coming up and that is for people who are looking to transition from their nine to five and build their own businesses called engineering your empire. And that’s going to be in my Facebook group. It’s a, again, it’s a free challenge and on each day it’s just three days. We’ll talk about how to how to create your exit strategy, which your exit strategy is so important. You have to have a plan and then also vetting your business idea to make sure that you actually have a viable business idea that can get you where you, you want to go. And then also refining your, your offering, your messaging. So we’ll do all that in three days and we will have I will have a ton of giveaways, a ton of giveaways, and it’s going to be super awesome.
Katie: 34:20 That’s super exciting. Is that like going on over a certain amount of time or is it ongoing?
Mia: 34:26 Every month we will have it. So be on the lookout and you can find out about that.
Katie: 34:38 Okay, great. So I will link to everything in the show notes for that because that sounds like an amazing resource that you guys are not gonna wanna miss out on. And do you also have all your social media and your podcasts and your website and everything? Cause I know people are gonna want to check out all the amazing things you’re doing.
Mia: 34:54 Yes, I do. I do it. So I’m on Facebook and Instagram at @Miamarketer
www.facebook.com/meorthemarketer or www.instagram.com/miathemarketer and you can listen to the podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, Spotify, Google play www.mammabuildyourempire.com and those are the basically the places you can find me. I’m on there always.
Katie: 35:1FamilyPreneur Podcast Archives – Meg Brunson7 Awesome. Well, I’ll link to everything in the show notes so everybody can find that in me and thank you so much for coming on the show. It’s been a blast talking to you.
Mia: 35:24 Thank you so much. Thanks for having me.
Katie: 35:28 Hey guys, I hope you enjoyed today’s interview. Don’t forget that you can check out previous episodes as well as all the show notes www.hustlenomicspodcast.com. If you want to support the show, you can head over to iTunes and leave a rating or review. Each review means so much to me and it really helps the podcast on the business end. If you want to find another way to support the show. We’re also on Patreon. You can find a link to our page around on our website. If you have any questions or you have a topic you’d like to hear covered on the show, feel free to DM me on Instagram or send me an email. Thanks again for listening and I’ll see you next week.
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